• TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    If OP had mentioned even once that someone should vote for Trump in this thread, I’d agree with you, but you’re the only one bringing it up here, so in this case, you’re the problem.

    What you seem to refuse to want to acknowledge is that the only reason I say any of this here is that I’ve remained silent after reading thousands of their posts and seeing the bad behavior more times than I can count.

    There were even discussions this week between lemmy.world mods about whether to ban them from the instance. From what I’ve seen they absolutely should’ve done that, but given that they didn’t, it’s feeling impossible that they ever will be so yeah I wrote some comments trying to call them out.

    Never once was it my goal to approach it this way but nothing else has worked. Reporting them for being toxic a dozen times has done jackshit, mods themselves agreeing with everything I’m saying here hasn’t either. What would you suggest I try? Assuming you can accept I might be right about any of this.

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      25 days ago

      Reject bad behavior when you see it. That’s all you can do. In the same way that we need to draw attention to the holocaust over and over even though we know it likely won’t stop it, we need to point out bad behavior over and over again even if it doesn’t stop it. But don’t point out bad behavior when there’s none to be seen - that just weakens your argument.

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        25 days ago

        The fact that I told you I tried that and it didn’t work just flew in one ear and out the other. I meant it when I said I give up.

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          25 days ago

          The fact that I said you need to keep trying even as it doesn’t work clearly flew in one ear and out the other for you.

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            25 days ago

            Okay, in the future I will know not to engage with you. If your position remains firm that as long as he claims to support Palestine, that I must believe him (despite a lot of contrary evidence) and keep my mouth shut, we’ve nothing to talk about

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              25 days ago

              You can’t change someone else’s behavior, you can only control your own. The results are the ends, but the means are more important.

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                24 days ago

                There was never any indication I was trying to change their behavior. It was pretty self explanatory that I was making others aware of it. Something they apparently give zero fucks about.

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                  24 days ago

                  Reporting them for being toxic a dozen times has done jackshit, mods themselves agreeing with everything I’m saying here hasn’t either.

                  This is more the behavior I was talking about. You can’t force the mods to do anything, all you can do is try, and continue to do so even as it continues to yield no meaningful results. Just like those pointing out the tragedy happening in Gaza understand their incessant posting isn’t likely to change anything besides building solidarity with those who are suffering. But again, when people agree with the message behind a post, they aren’t going to join you in brigading against the person posting it, even if he may be posting it for unscrupulous reasons.

                  At the end of the day this post didn’t get anyone to vote for Trump, but it got people to think about Gaza just a little bit more, which is a good thing. If you want people to add their voices to yours crying out for OP’s ban, you need to draw attention to it in places where they actually did something people will get upset about.