• jaybone@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Maybe if he wasn’t yelling at her all the time, she would have been comfortable with the gender he wanted her to be in the first place.

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        3 months ago

        I presume there’s potentially a lot of different drivers of gender identity. I wouldn’t be surprised if early childhood abusive pressure to be a “certain brand of man, right now” could be a driver to a feminine gender identity in someone that otherwise might have had a masculine gender identity. Of the trans people who have told me their personal background, many had a somewhat traumatic relationship with a parent in childhood, with a common theme of a parent to be abusive to drive them to be more like a fully grown person while still in elementary school.

        It’s not a given and it’s not the only way it works, but I think it is in the realm of possibility that Elon’s bad parenting created the very outcome he sought to suppress.

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          3 months ago

          There are physiological differences in the brain structure. Now obviously that needs more research, and it doesn’t speak to nature vs nurture- I mean neuroplasticity is a crazy and wonderful thing, but I hesitate to agree that a traumatic parental relationship causes gender dysphoria.

          To me, it smacks of times gone by that homosexuality was included in the DSM- a disorder to be “cured”. Gender dysphoria is a widely recognized disorder, with a known cure- gender affirming care. And one doesn’t need to experience dysphoria to be trans.

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            3 months ago

            I suspect it’s a complex situation with multiple paths to get there. As it states in that paper “Further research is required”. Based on the paper, I’m not even sure they really had a comprehensive sampling, since it’s a meta-analysis and the source material is generally pretty limited. For example: “It is however noted that the small sample size (n=17) provides only weak evidence to support the finding and as such the results should be taken with caution.”

            Just like there are multiple paths to having different vision (genetics, developmental anomalies, illness, environmental, trauma), I suspect there’s enough nuance in gender identity for there to be multiple paths there as well.

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          3 months ago

          Are you cis? If so, at what point did you develop an identity aligning to your assigned gender at birth? Some trans folks know from very young, others just feel that something is wrong.