• burrito82@feddit.de
      7·
      2 months ago

      Thank you. I had not read that before. The novice’s first steps are just wonderful.

    • Korne127@lemmy.world
      1·
      2 months ago

      This is awesome. But one question as I’m not so familiar with emacs: Why do they punish someone when trying to use emacs but not vi? Why do you see emacs as something works?

      • mumblerfish@lemmy.world
        4·
        2 months ago

        Not sure, but I think emacs at least used to have a reputation as a resourse hog and bloated. So maybe that?

        • TruePe4rl@lemmy.mlEnglish
          1·
          2 months ago

          I just felt that many people may get lost in it when first using it, the same way ppl get lost in vim. At least I managed to get lost in both of them when I first tried them.

          • PaX [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
            2·
            2 months ago

            Ohh, I know, I was just making a joke cuz ed will print ? when it doesn’t recognize a command and many people will see that over and over if they can’t figure out how to exit lol

            I also got lost in vi and ed when I first used them lol

            Tbh if I’m just making quick edits to config files or whatever I use nano lmao

            • TruePe4rl@lemmy.mlEnglish
              2·
              2 months ago

              got me there : )

              I am unfortunately so used to vim and its bindings that I suffer whenever I can’t use it. It can be really tricky to do certain operations in other editors.

  • LalSalaamComrade@lemmy.mlEnglish
    61·
    2 months ago

    Kakoune is probably the only editor that respects the UNIX philosophy, and I love it. But I also don’t like how there’s no linter and formatter for the same - maybe a daemon-based approach is probably better?

    • PaX [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      3·
      2 months ago

      If you like Unixy editors, highly recommend also looking into acme

      Russ Cox describes it in this video as more like an “integrating development environment” as in it works with your surrounding operating system rather than an “integrated development environment”

      Doesn’t shine as much on Unix as in Plan 9 though. Also no linter or formatter built into or distributed with acme but you probably could get your language’s usual tools to work pretty well with it

    • sping@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      2·
      2 months ago

      I really f’ing love Emacs, and… this is true. I’m still constantly learning, 3 decades in.

      But that’s part of its appeal - it’s a constantly evolving, you tweak and modify it for your needs, and you grow and change together.

      • finestnothing@lemmy.world
        2·
        2 months ago

        I’m very partial to doom emacs. I love the emacs ecosystem but the default editor made me want to cry, doom emacs gives the awesome text editing of vim with the awesome ecosystem of emacs (significantly smoother than viper too)

        • sping@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
          2·
          2 months ago

          it always entertains me when a vim aficionado regurgitates the “just missing a good editor” joke, given that one of the editors Emacs offers is a pretty comprehensive clone of vim.

          (personally, I never had any problem with the default editor when I migrated to it from vi, though I was using a keyboard that already had ctrl next to a.)