American butter is shit tbf
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Kerrygold 🥰
You don’t think it’s gonna make a difference, but once you eat a stick of it, you’ll know.
You eat it by the stick?
If you want to make Homer’s patented out of this world moon waffles you do.
My aunt in Yorkshire always used to say “butter makes everything better, including margarine”
I mean, butter is nice, but eating it by the stick? I scrape some onto bread, or cut off a small slice to fry something in, or maybe mix it into a cake.
But eating a stick of butter?
I recommend making Hollandaise sauce to really emphasize the butter!
Trying to figure out if this is a bit or truly worth the hype. I was about to go shopping tomorrow. Gonna make scones, so I need butter.
It’s truth. Expensive truth, but worth it when you have the money
It’s worth it. Make sure you have everything you need, including tools, utensils, and dishes, before you start though. It comes together very fast and you will not have a spare second to go grab something.
Add a dash of cayenne if the recipe doesn’t include it, otherwise I find the creaminess coats the palate too much and makes it taste too samey.
they’re making scones, not hollandaise sauce
Yep. If you know, you know.
I definitely recommend going to the Butter Museum in Cork which is essentially a Kerrygold museum.
How the fuck do you spread it?
Slice off a pad and pop it on a plate, then microwave it a little.
I don’t know if that’s how you’re supposed to do it, but it sure as hell works.
What kind of high class bs … lol
A good example why nationalism and pride about it makes no sense. Most people had no choice in where they are from, and had no influence on something like this. Having pride in something you did not influence and had no choice in is really weird and kind of narcissistic.
This is why it gets toxic and dangerous easily. We see similar issues with fans of sports teams, even though the fan has literally nothing to do with the team.
its just an ancient tribal instinct. oh, you’re from the squirrel bones tribe? pssh, your berry bushes are shit. rat skull tribe have best berry bushes, and we have stream. squirrel bones tribe have no stream and bad berry bushes
Your sportsball team is shit. WE smashed you!
We!?! Really bob? Pretty sure you passed out and pissed yourself that night…
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This is about butter, not nations. The nations are merely places in which the butter resides.
Literally about a nation. Literally says national pride.
This, sir, was probably a joke.
The Irishman misunderstands
speciesism >> nationalism
Having pride in something you did not influence and had no choice in is really weird and kind of narcissistic.
what
When someone says “I’ve been sober for a year” and a commenter says “I’m proud of you, OP”, is that narcissistic? Pride in this sense is a sense of community accomplishment. As a social species, we share in the achievements of others as necessarily related to our own - it’s a form of creating bonds and encouraging behavior. Whether you dislike the idea of nations or not, having pride in something you didn’t influence and had no choice in is perfectly normal and not at all narcissistic.
reminds me of JP Sartre: by disparaging the jews, the anti-semite instantly puts himself into a superior group without having to actually do anything.
Nationalism works the same way. “I belong to THIS socially constructed group! We do such great things!” as if they built the community from the ground up and weren’t just thrown into a world with systems already in place independent of them that helped produce the things they’re proud of…
Like sure community is a thing but at a certain point doesn’t it get quite arbitrary what you take credit for? and doesn’t that also mean we have to take credit for all the bad things too? every Palestinian would become Hamas and every American a drone pilot. those are precisely the reasons I am not patriotic and i dont find “shut up, frog” jokes funny. “just” tribalism? “just” a wee cheeky bit o fash in the mornin?
There are excellent American-made butters done traditionally. I hate that they’re making me defend the US but they have no monopoly on shitty food. It’s kinda just another form of exceptionalism.
There’s no secret to good butter. Grass fed cows, fermented milk, and high fat content. It’s just expensive.
In average American food is terrible.
That doesn’t mean there isn’t great American food, it just means that the stuff that’s sold the most is horridly heavily processed, thoroughly artificial and/or intensively farmed/raised crap.
It’s not a lack of knowledge or capable people in that domain, it’s that the system pushes cheap crap that whilst it own’t kill you outright it will shorten your Life Expectation by almost two decades compared to most Europeans.
I think a more accurate conclusion then, would be “the average American is too poor to afford good food”
The CAP in Europe subsidizes more traditional farming and farming produce, not corn + hormone beef.
Also there are all sorts of local legislation that limit the extent to which crap food can be passed as real food: a lot of what can be sold as “cheese” in America can’t be sold as “fromage” in France and similarly a “sausage” in Britain has a very strict definition of what can go into it (the crap stuff is called a “banger” since BY LAW it can’t be called a “sausage”).
A lot of the bad practices would be just as cost-saving to do in Europe as in the US, it’s just that the legislation is way tighter and to some level (depending on the country) consumers are much more demanding (plus also due to the legislation, producers can’t just name the fake stuff the same as the real stuff).
The impression I have from talking to Americans is that to eat good food in the US you need to really make an effort, whilst in Europe for most things comparativelly higher quality ingredients are widespread (often the default), easy to find it and there are quite a lot of restrictions on what producers can put in it (or how it’s farmed or raised).
Sort of, it goes both ways its not just on the consumer.
Yeah, I too think it’s a mix.
You see some kinds of shit food also being pushed in Europe, and then you see different outcomes per country, depending on local food culture and also legislation - people expect some thing and won’t settle for less plus certain things are simply not allowed by Law to be sold as food or be branded in some ways (for example, there UK has very strict demands of what can go into what can be called a “sausage”, which is why the shit stuff is called “bangers”).
Also in Europe vs the US you see a major difference in where farming subsidies go to - if more traditional farming is subsidized instead of corn raising and hormone-filled cattle breeding, the better quality stuff is what’s cheaper not the crap stuff.
No it’s not it’s specifically that companies can sell Americans the same food they sell in other countries but in those countries, the same food is made with much better ingredients.
Look at the difference between the ingredient list in a Heinz ketchup bottle in the EU vs in America.
Why are you being downvoted? Your comment is true, accurate, and unbiased. 🤷🏽
i will skullfuck you, american food is literally the only thing we do well because our cuisine is so fucking diverse holy shit are you completely and totally wrong. You just generalized an entire country full of diverse palates and tastes.
Yeah, when people discuss american food they automatically think of off-the-shelf walmart stuff, mcdonalds, etc. When there are tons of artisanal food producers here, like a lot of them.
“American cheese isn’t even cheese”. I mean ‘american cheese’ is very processed. But go to Wisconsin and tell me we don’t have good cheese.
There’s plenty of good quality stuff in America. We just can’t fucking afford it.
IDK man is this one of those things where as an American I grew up with like super processed chocolate and regular chocolate would just taste strange to me?
Funny enough, I also grew up on super processed chocolate, and I thought I just didn’t like chocolate that much, until I got some real chocolate when I was a teen.
God, Hershey’s tastes like pain and sadness.
In an upper middle class european family I often ate swiss chocolate and once my dad went to the us and bought some hersheys for us to taste. / It was like 2 girls one cup in my mouth for my refined european taste buds /s
It’s got that vomit aftertaste
That’s the rat faeces!
ok this conversation was about butter if you fucking come at Hershey’s imma throw hands (I dont like cadburry’s but I dont try to make people feel bad about it!!) lindt is pretty dope. for a second I thought I liked ritter sport but realized nope. I understand hershey’s isnt for everyone and if you dont grow up with it you may not think much of it. however, because I detect you are a gentleman and are wise of the ways of the world: I implore you to try Hershey’s nuggets w/ almonds, hershey’s w/ almonds or even a Mr. Goodbar (which is just hershey’s w/ peanuts).
I think I’ll just stick to any chocolate that isn’t Hershey’s.
Chocolate is a big one.
I’m talking specifically big brands, not chocolatiers, but something like Hershey’s is absurd.
American chocolate is way too crumbly and oil-without-flavor with some weird mustiness; pretty much every country has better chocolate than the US.
American to international chocolate is like ketchup on a tortilla compared to a gourmet pizza.
The difference isn’t even really noticeable in most dishes.
If you are doing something where butter is a main component you can use it to finish off your dish for some extra texture mostly. It’s just more creamy out of the box.
For anything pan fried or where “tasting butter” is a component the vast majority of folks couldn’t pass a blind taste test reliably at all.
Also, regular dark chocolate is garbage and more of this smugness. If you want 98% dark chocolate bitter shit, fine. But don’t let smug redditors and lemmy lounge lizards bully you into liking sweet chocolate. Same with American beer, we have some of the worlds best. It’s all gatekeeping smugness.
The American chocolate thing isn’t about chocolate %. An American came up with a process to help preserve the dairy, however this creates an amount of butyric acid as a bi-product. Completely fine health wise, but the only time a normal person would otherwise encounter butyric acid is when vomiting. Its largely responsible for the iconic taste and smell associated with vomit. So for people that didn’t grow up eating American chocolate, American chocolate literally tastes like vomit.
the only time a normal person would otherwise encounter butyric acid is when vomiting
On the contrary, it’s also the delicious tang in Parmesan cheese. American chocolate tastes as much like vomit as real Parmesan cheese does
It’s really amusing how Americans do not cope with other countries having good things.
Even the tiniest things, like butter . One tiny tiny thing a country like Ireland does better, and it takes 5 minutes for an American to show up
“Yeah. Well….fuckin……butter ….we got butter, it’s great butter …i can’t tell the diference……and like…. Fuckin yurop……it’s like , all smug………and anyway our beer is best”.”
The possibility that other people have nice things, triggers them so hard.
You miss under the situation. Imagine someone flew to Finland had a can of kalakukko then went off for the rest of their life that all of the EU has dog shit food and is a cultural hellhole.
What’s also amusing is how people sometimes understandably, but mistakenly, display the out-group homogeniety bias in their thinking and believe they’re scoring a win in some national pride pissing contest they started themselves
Like I said, triggered.
Lololol we have EU style butter. It’s in every supermarket. It’s two different tools. Not my problem heathens don’t know how to cook or haven’t actually experienced food outside your Internet bubble.
As a cooking ingredient, maybe, but if you’re using butter on toast, bread, etc. then Irish/French/British butter is clearly better.
Also, the superiority of European chocolate isn’t to do with the cocoa content or the sweetness - it’s just creamier and has a smoother texture.
I’ll agree with you on the beer, though.
American here - Irish/French butter is the clear winner for buttered bread.
Unfortunately found out I can’t eat anything with gluten, and rice based bread and other similar garbage doesn’t absorb properly, so it’s not longer something I get to enjoy.
Still. Irish butter is my personal preferred.
The difference is subtle and not noticeable to most people. You’ll do better in your testing and get better results switching to salted butter for things like toast. The difference just isn’t that big.
- No it’s not.
- I already use salted butter for toast – American is still worse.
- Yes it is.
Given the number of Americans who have had their tastebuds destroyed by covid, I can understand your palate.
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American beer, we have some of the worlds best
Such as? I’m not at all a beer gourmet and don’t particularly dislike American beer (not even the light variants) but I’ve been to multiple states and never got a beer I considered top notch.
For example I’ve been to Florida just recently and apparently IPA is the shit nowadays. Didn’t like a single one of them, they all tasted artificial.
Edit: Also, I hope your bar for European beer isn’t stuff like Heineken or Beck’s. They are not bad but pretty basic stuff sold worldwide. Nobody in Europe considers those particularly great.
Sounds like you are probably going to generic restaurants and ordering mass produced IPAs and getting our version of becks. I can happily suggest a fantastic beer if you want to give me your style of choice.
As a belgian, America having some of the best beer sounds like cope to me when belgium, germany, czechia exist
German beer hasn’t been relevant in the competition scene in 10 years. The French and Dutch carry the Belgium scene. Id put our best up against the Belgium best any day and have mixed results depending on category.
Never had anything from czechia though, no clue.
If the guide who was saying that about butter was not wearing a scarf around his neck and smoking a Gauloises, he needs to lose his French license.
Why are Americans so into Irish butter? It’s ok, but just about the same as British butter. French and danish butter though are completely different. It’s fermented.
I see Irish butter in nearly every US grocery store; I’ve never seen French or Danish butter but I’ll keep an eye out for it, sounds interesting.
Président for french. Lurpak for danish. At least those are the brands that we get in the UK.
TIL the french make butter.
Butter from tropical South Pacific countries is high in salt. It help with replenishing minerals your body loses due to sweating.
The secret is the west coasts.
The french guy was talking about butter from Bretagne. West coast Irish butter is amazing. West coast Scottish butter is amazing.
Know why? Because it absolutely pisses down with rain almost every fucking day in west coast Atlantic areas, the grass grows like triffids and the cows eat themselves silly
Quite simple
I choose to believe it’s their mutual hatred of England that makes their butter taste good.
I shall be adopting “like triffids” into my everyday vernacular from now on.
what on earth is a triffid?!
(Heavy influence on 28 days later)
Butter from Normandy in particular.
Are people possibly confusing what people call butter here - margarine - and butter? Store bought butter tastes the same as fresh churned farm butter…
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