• rdri@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    If they took 0.5 %,

    Took from what? Is this about the revenue share again? Stop listening to that idiot Timmy.

    We know that many others take the same %% so I could say even if they took 50% they wouldn’t deliver a product as good as Steam.

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      4 months ago

      With a 30% cut they make enough surplus that the owner is a billionaire that can afford 6 yacht, there’s no reason why you or anyone should defend Valve’s decision to be so profitable instead of making games cheaper and that applies to any company where the owner is rich.

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        4 months ago

        Yachts. This can’t be more silly. And what would you say if he didn’t own those yachts? “Look at the bank account of that guy who owns almost a whole gaming platform because others are not qualified enough to compete with his company”?

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          4 months ago

          That’s exactly what people should say, billionaires shouldn’t exist, it’s that simple. 80% of US citizens live paycheck to paycheck, people have a hard time affording to pay for basic needs, meanwhile you’ve got companies that take a big enough cut on everything they sell that their owner can afford to spend in a day more than the average person will make in their whole life without having to even think about the impact that will have on their ability to pay their bills.

          The wealth they accumulate comes directly from our pockets, stop defending them, they exist because we pay more for things than they’re truly worth.

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          4 months ago

          It’s not just about Steam taking a smaller cut, the whole distribution chain makes it so the people developing the product are the poorest ones in the development to consumer process.

          If publishers and distributors took a smaller cut and prices stayed the same instead of going down, it would mean that developers would get more money for their work, developers are people like you and me.

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      4 months ago

      To be clear, I’m not listening to anyone. I think the government should step in and force a maximum of 5% on all stores, or something similar.

      The fact that they all take the same percentage is exactly the reason why I’m saying there’s collusion going on.

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        4 months ago

        I’m sure you came up with that 5% number after careful research and didn’t just pull some low round number out of your ass.

        /s

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        4 months ago

        Government of which country or countries? You wouldn’t think they would stay in the US if what you said will happen, would you?

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          Their propaganda machine works so well, you’re proving it by bringing up all the usual talking points.

          “They offer a good product so they deserve it.”

          “They would leave if they were forced to reduce their profits.”

          You know what countries can do? Get together and impose the same kind of rules to all companies no matter where they’re established. They can also decide to force companies to pay taxes based on where the revenue came from under the threat that they won’t be able to do business in their territory anymore.

          It’s funny how in a previous conversation you were saying that people should be able to make donations to devs and you never thought “Hey, maybe it’s not normal that only 50% of what I pay ends up in the pockets of the people doing the actual work…” and you even suggest that art should be encouraged via tax redistribution. Well guess what, that wouldn’t be necessary if multimillionaires and billionaires didn’t exist in the first place.

          People all around you are struggling and you’re defending the 1%, wake the fuck up.

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      4 months ago

      We know that many others take the same %% so I could say even if they took 50% they wouldn’t deliver a product as good as Steam.

      Epics 12% and they operate with how many more employees?

      So what is valve doing with all this extra money than on Gabe?

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        4 months ago

        Epics are posers at this point, or one could say a fake platform. Remove Fortnite from them and it will shut down immediately, especially at 12%.

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          Epic tried to pull an Amazon.

          Get VC money and subsidize and undercut competition using anticompetitive practices to gain market share before the rug pull where they jack up their margins to the industry standard.

          The difference is Amazon actually made a good software experience in the beginning few years and Epic spent literal years with very few feature updates and whining about “unfair market practices” when they were the only ones actually engaging in anti-consumer passes like paying off developers to be Epic-exclusive and buying developers and removing their games from steam.

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          4 months ago

          You realize the others only charge that much since steam set the standard… yeah? All of them can charge less so what’s your point here? You clearly lied in your original comment, and are now making up points to defend it.