• mozz@mbin.grits.dev
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    17
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    5 months ago

    Are you under the impression that Trump’s destruction of the US won’t involve him doing 10 times more terroristic things all over the world?

    Or that the powers that will invade the power vacuum left by a US collapse wouldn’t instantly start resuming the exact same terrorism, and worse, that you are (with every righteous reason) opposing when the US is doing it?

    • Transporter Room 3@startrek.website
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      15
      ·
      5 months ago

      He must be in the “but I did nothing, for I was not _____” stage.

      A lot of people seem to be under the impression that if open fascists spouting fascist rhetoric at every opportunity take full control of THE MOST EXPENSIVE MILITARY IN THE WORLD, that it will just self-implode into a nice neat little controlled demolition.

      Lmao that is naive at best. And actually wishing for it is downright stupid. I don’t want Russia to collapse and kill itself, I want the scum leading their politics and militaries to be dealt with in the only manner befitting such filth. Anyone wishing different for the US or Russia, or ANY current or former world superpower that still has massive amounts of sway and firepower, is just wishing for collateral damage.

      When shit hits the fan, it goes everywhere. When their backs are against a wall, they will strike out and take what they want, to hell with the fallout. Possibly literal.

      A sad number of people just go “[large country] bad lol die” like their lives will be unaffected by such a massive global power shift.

      • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        5 months ago

        100% right. It is the temptation for easy solutions.

        Turns out all that was needed to eliminate war and oppression was to pick out one semi-democratic country that’s doing it, and don’t vote in their elections, and bingo! Fascists take over, country collapses, no war and oppression anymore. I am amazed it was so easy the whole time and people were wasting their time with all these other more complicated structures and efforts to get it done.

    • Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      5 months ago

      The US has been continually committing terrorist acts (or enabling them) around the world for at least the last 70 years.

      If the US is collapsing, perhaps they will have to let up a little and focus on its own civil war and take the boot off of the developing world somewhat.

      • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        5 months ago

        No one will argue that the US hasn’t been committing terrorist acts and war crimes since before its inception. We literally started a revolution to form the country. Our founding fathers grew hemp and marijuana, and they wrote about sorting seeds for potency, they also were gun runners.

        You really don’t want the US to collapse under a fascist government. We’re headed for a collapse either way, but the boot only comes off if the fascists aren’t in charge of the most expensive and capable military in the world. We actually maintain our nukes, and I don’t want someone that has already tried to use them getting his hands on those again. If we fall to fascists they will strike out and start WWIII. They don’t care about fallout of any kind, political or nuclear.

    • lulztard@feddit.de
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      4 months ago

      Of course the void will be filled by other terrorist nations. But none of them have the power and capabilities of the US. It’s like replacing a shooter with a stabber. Still shit, but less so. Plus, who knows, maybe the EU will finally step up.

    • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      5 months ago

      the power vacuum

      power vacuums are fictions created by intelligence agencies to justify propping up regimes. they are not inevitable natural phenomena