• uis@lemm.ee
    261·
    3 months ago

    To be fair electric cars are still cars. Fuck them.

    • FireRetardant@lemmy.world
      141·
      3 months ago

      They really aren’t that much better for the planet compared to ICE and when compared to transit or active transport they really are the least effecient “green” option.

      Its not just about reducing carbon, we should be trying to reduce overall energy usage and focus on effecient systems.

      Everyone driving their electric SUV to park in a sea of pavement is not effecient land or energy use.

            • LovesTha🥧@floss.social
              2·
              3 months ago

              @Tak Or build stations and tracks where so few people will use them.

              Building more tracks for everything would be good, but still not an answer for everything.

              A world where we only had trains and push bikes would be nice, but not likely to happen.

                • LovesTha🥧@floss.social
                  1·
                  3 months ago

                  @figstick @Tak you probably need a density of more than 1 person per square km. That is where most people live. It is great for most people. Maybe even nearly everyone.

                  But for the last 0.1% something else is needed.

                  But even then it might be better to have personal rail vehicles on private tracks (the same tracks the farm should be using for it’s produce.

        • uis@lemm.ee
          21·
          3 months ago

          You mean using same road cars would use for buses, while optionally removing extra lanes, is less green and cheap than building and maintaining 18-lane monstrosities in the middle of nowhere?

            • uis@lemm.ee
              11·
              3 months ago

              18 lane monstrosities are connections between the dense cities/burbs.

              All those 18 lanes are built ONLY because of cars.

                • uis@lemm.ee
                  11·
                  3 months ago

                  What? Cars per length? What is this unit of? Some wierd linear density? I’m saying that that 18-lane abominations are built only for no other reason than driving cars. You say that car infrastructure is cheap, especially in rural areas, but you seem to ignore(intentionally or not) most expensive and destructive part of it. Which happens to go through rural areas. Or you can name abomination that is purely within city limits?

                  And public transit just doesn’t need this abomination. Public transit works fine even with one lane per direction. Or track if we are talking about trains.