• Отояна@lemmygrad.ml
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    Honestly… I’d like to tinker anybody’s emotional triggers a bit, but that’s not going to be a discussion, I already did with this unnecessary inclusion of Zhozhik buzzword, which was just falling into your trap as it is totally unrelated to the points discussed. You still haven’t explained what you meant by “markers”, is that a Lemmy thing?

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      “falling into my trap” doesn’t absolve you of anything. You did it, because you’re what I thought you are.

      You still haven’t explained what you meant by “markers”, is that a Lemmy thing?

      No, markers are your brain thing and you want to have it sorted out. Putin is ok to criticize say anything and everything about, because he isn’t a leftist leader, any Russian lefty who doesn’t like trots like Syomin and Rudoy is a zhozhek…- them’s the markers. And you think in those.

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        Wait, isn’t that funny how I allowed the discussion to flow by your standards, which was basically what I meant by “falling into your trap” - basically, assigning buzzwords and reacting to such buzzwords like “shitlib”, “liberal propaganda”, “zhozhik”. propaganda". If you expected anything else, then I’m sorry for treating you seriously and expecting something above pointing markers… You could entertain the discussion whenever you wanted, I wasn’t holding you back from doing that instead of pointing markers and tinkering ones emotional triggers like some trivial Russian left YouTubers…

        Yes, exactly, if something isn’t left-wing it deserves to be criticized, is it not, just like Ukraine, modern national relation, but as long as we live in the real world, we still have to understand internal contradictions of said systems and reasons why they exist, their benefits, and what preceded them in order to move forward and build a fair society, supporting a shady autocrat doesn’t do that.

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          Nice try (no), but shitlib and liberal propaganda aren’t buzzwords in this context, because you provided all the proof in the world. And there is no discussion to be had here, these liberal takes had been beaten to death here before you knew about lemmygrad.

          You clearly don’t live in the real world if you think you can judge countries and their policies as if a country exists in a vacuum. And, again, knowing who owns your brain, I don’t intend to waste my time on explaining this, I’m sure you have some quality Syomin brand copium for why Putin is worse than a fascist military alliance that commits genocides and pluders half of the world.

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            I love this. Just pure devotion of you keeping justifying your lacking self-awareness. My entire point was that we don’t live in a vacuum, of course it seems for you even a phrase like that is just a buzzword, same goes for denying others people’s autonomy in process of forming their opinions. Just one marker after another. Chef’s kiss.

            Are you waisting your time? I doubt your time holds any value seeing how hypocritical and self unaware your posts are. Also, thank you for additional toping of emotional triggers I mentioned were trivial to this non-discussion.

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          …if something isn’t left-wing it deserves to be criticized…

          Just because cucktin deserves to be criticized doesn’t mean your criticism isn’t shit.

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            There is some serious myopia going on with these trot related fragments of the Russian left(?) that say…liberal shit all the time… Anyway, they think they’ll catch some capitalist cooties by agreeing with anything at all that the government does, I guess.

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            Keep being angry /shrug I’m always here for a good criticism of Putin and clarification where I overstepped myself.

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              For starters, saying “Zelensky is a legitimate representative of nation, autonomy and sovereignty” is patently absurd. I could see a westerner buying into this shit because Zelensky love is astroturfed to all hell here and the average person in my part of the world benefits from the defeat of ruzzia, but I would expect ruzzianz like you to at least be aware of the euromaidan coup and shelling of the Donbass.

              Second, even if we were to assume that ruzzia is the aggressor, not budging to requests to negotiations unless ruzzia returns Crimea is pursuing a goal that is not only incredibly unlikely to achieve, but one that will be paid for with more blood than Ukraine has left to bleed.

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      Comrades, please be nice to each other, and argue in good faith. Also please do not randomly downvote.