• RQG@lemmy.world
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    I always found the rules about public drinking in the US to be more strange than the drinking age.

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      Depends on the area, there are some where it’s legal to drink outside as long as it’s from a local business

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        Which means there are areas where you can’t even sit outside a Cafe or bar and have a beer. This seems so strange.

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          You misunderstand you can drink at a cafe/bar’s outdoor patio anywhere in the US.

          The places I was talking about in my original comment are called DORA - “Designated Outdoor Drinking Area” and usually span the whole downtown of a city. Those have cheap, but reusable plastic cups that you can get refilled at any business downtown.

          Really great for festivals where you just pop in for a refill and head back out to keep watching a stage show or whatever. It cuts down on waste over cans/bottles too.

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            Ah alright that makes a lot more sense. As I said that seemed strange. Thanks for clarifying! I love learning about different cultures and laws.

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    Ah, yes, Germany! The land where there are no alcohol issues because everybody is by default drunk.

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        I was just making a stupid joke. Playing with an old stereotype. It’s germans and beer and us and our mustaches.

        That is good to know. My own country had a serious issue with alcohol and we managed to curb it in less than 10 years.

        The recent surge revolves around binge drinking and hard liquor, when it was originally around wine. And supposedly women are drinking more than men, nowadays.

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    By the time Germans turn 18 (legal age for stronger alcoholic beverages) most of them already know their limit and party with more responsibility in my opinion.

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      Unfortunately alcoholism problems are worse here in Germany than the US. Many point to the early drinking ages for this, personally I see it is more a general cultural issue.

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        I have no data to back this up, but I seem to find that regions at Northern latitudes tend to have higher rates of alcoholism. I think it has something to do with long winter nights and people being able to find a sense of community in a pub/bar/Ratskeller after the sun goes down at 16:00 for half the year.

        The US is much further south than most of Europe AND there are large regions that are very anti-alcohol due to religious reasons.

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          I would assume there is good data to back it up as depression rates tend to trend in this way way as well. With that said, alcoholism in Germany is still worse than with US states at the same light levels. Also if you take a peek at lists of alcoholism Lists of alcoholism there are both dark and sunny countries in favorable and unfavorable places. So I’m not sure it can be a sole factor in drinking rates but likely a contributing factor.

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          You could probably back this up by looking at the alcoholism rates in Scandinavia (especially Norway and Sweden)

          Scandinavia had their own prohibition and still to this day have a strict 18/21+ drinking age with booze only being sold during very specific hours (and never on Sundays or religious holidays), with anything above I think 12% only available at the government run bottle shop

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      I feel like that’s mostly a feelgood myth. Like for every person who handles their drink responsibly and started drinking young it produces like 10 functioning alcoholics. This countrys relationship to alcohol is fucked up

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        At least most of me and my friends did. We still drink, but way way way way less. I feel like 21 or around there we the time we hit that responsibility.

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    Grew up in South America and underage drinking, though illegal in theory, is pretty much the norm.

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        Most people I knew started in college. 15 is a bit young. Only knew a handful of partiers who drank in high school.

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          As a non-American, every single American teenage movie I’ve ever watched tells me this is untrue.

          I mean getting alcohol for an underage party is the whole plot of Superbad.

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            As an American emigrant: the red cups are real, but not limited to house parties; alcohol is a lot less accessible, so the party would be more likely to have four different kinds of liqueur from peoples parents or three handles of paint cleaner; getting the cops called on an underage party is serious. Like, potentially lose your job and home serious, even if you were gone for the weekend.

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            It is untrue. You can go to any highschool and find giant parties happening several times a year. It happens at multiple schools, kids travel to the next school over, and they will typical be 100s of kids at these things.

            Maybe it’s changing with gen z but the overwhelming majority of American high schoolers in the 90s and 00s were having drinks from time to time and party.

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        Interesting. I’m in Australia now and people here actually do respect the law when it comes to drinking. If you are under 18, it’s unlikely you will be able to buy alcohol or get into a nightclub etc. It would be shocking to hear someone got pissed drunk at 15, whereas where I come from that isn’t the case.

        From OPs post I presumed US would be more like Australia in that regard, but, I take your word

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          That might be more to do with your social circles. There was a shit ton of teenage drinking happening when I was in high-school.

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            Might be a thing of social circles. For middle working class in NSW, personally, I’ve found it’s not the norm in my circles and I might say it’s also not the norm for even wealthier people- but I don’t rub shoulders with these crowds a lot. I’m sure it happens though.

            My experience elsewhere was that underage drinking was actually the norm across any backgrounds.

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          I lived in Straya my whole life. I remember being 12 and my 13 year old buddy getting fucking drunk as hell on his dads beers during a massive party. It was a rural area though.

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          With the exception of fake IDs, I don’t know if anyone getting into nightclubs or most bars. Occasionally there’ll be a shitty gas station that’ll sell kids beer, but they get shut down pretty quick. It’s mainly kids getting drunk with other kids in garages, at house parties, in the woods, et cetera, because one of them has an older brother, or is dating an older person or something.

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          yes, but leo is 16 in this image, and 16 is nit underage drinking in germany. and 15 is underage, too, isn’t it? it happens a lot and is nothing positive, but here we are 🤷

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            Thats exacly my point. It is not positive and it happens much earlier. In the end it’s less about laws and more about how people think about it

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    With 16 only Beer, stronger alcoholic drinks only when 18 Years old.

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        This is inevitable, but they cannot buy it themselves in a store. The owner risks having his store closed and having to pay a large fine if he sells alcohol to minors.

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          Theoretically you’re right, but from my experience a lot of cashiers don’t care if you’re 18 or not. Some do and ask for your ID, but especially in the more rural areas it generally isn’t a big problem to buy harder Alkohol. Of course the shop is risking a fine but I haven’t heard about any sort of market getting fined for selling Alkohol to minors.

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    The day after I moved to Germany I went to the hospital emergency room with what was later diagnosed as a kidney stone and stomach infection.

    I was given over the counter painkillers and some cramp medication and told to drink lots of beer to treat the stomach infection by the doctor.

    I am serious. I asked about the complications drinking on the pain meds and he just said it was OK.

    mixing those meds with alcohol fucks your liver

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      Was “fuck your liver” as in “once is enough to fuck your liver” or as in “do this every day over a month to see any significant damage” kind of thing.

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      Some doctors are wild. Mine will give me anything. I had a sore neck, he gave me tramadol. I was having trouble sleeping after quitting drinking, he gave me quietapine antipsychotics because their side effects are drowsiness. He gave me phentermine, a weight loss drug and powerful stimulant, because I was depressed. I was still depressed, but was much faster.

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      You misunderstood, the beer is for your kidneys. Alcohol inhibits the adiuretic hormone, so you have to piss more often, especially if you drink beer which is around 95% water. Drinking a lot reduces the formation of kidney stones since they get flushed out before growing too big.

      I wouldn’t take painkillers tho, maybe Ibuprofen if it’s unbearable, but stay away from Aspirin in conjunction with alcohol.

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    Drinking alcohol or buying it? Because in Britain it’s 18 to buy it yourself but 5 to have it at home.

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    Clever meme. The drink in hand works so well that you wonder whether the caption came before the image or vice versa.

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        Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?

        Btw, this meme is 14 years old. Get off my lawn

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      ass covering

      Does that mean covering it with a picture of your own bum or is that just how I make my memes?

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    I remember being 14 and having friends of the same age order beer here in Italy, get drunk, nobody cared.

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    Waiting for 21 was well worth is tbh. I’m more responsible and don’t have to get sloshed to show people that’s I’m a grown up.