• Zeusbottom@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    This is the biggest waste of words next to a “Trump-said” article.

    Laptop makers once put pop-out mice on laptops. They were horrible. Toting a wired mouse around was a pain in the ass too. There’s a reason touchpads took over. It doesn’t mean people don’t know how to work a computer.

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      9 months ago

      And just because a laptop has a trackpad doesn’t mean people don’t use them with their laptops. Our office is 90% Macbook pro and of those users only 10% use a trackpad (the external bluetooth one at that, not even the built in one)

      As of 2024, Apple sells just one computer with a mouse included

      Apple sells 0 mice with 90% of their computers, the iMac is the only model that comes with any external peripherals besides a charger. The Mac mini has always been a “bring your own keyboard and mouse” type device, and the Mac Pro/Studio are for people who probably already have a keyboard and mouse.

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        I like their trackpads a lot, but if you use the MacBook with an external monitor like so many of us do, it’s simply not an option. I stick with Logitech for mice though. Even their crappy mice are good, and their high end mice are great.

        I also have to disagree with the author’s take on the evolution of the mouse. I like having buttons to navigate forward and back when browsing the web, I like the multifunction scroll wheels, and I even like the sideways scroll wheels when looking through large charts or tables of data. When I used to game more on services like WoW, I had a mouse with a ton of buttons mapped to all kinds of macros and skills.

        The only people I don’t see using mice or external trackpads are PM types who don’t use external monitors and spend 80% of their days moving from meeting to meeting.

  • cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de
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    9 months ago

    I still use a mouse with my laptops. The button-less track pads are junk. Most programs are not optimized for touchscreen use and I don’t want fingerprints all over my screen anyways. The Thinkpad trackpoints are OK, but they are not usable in CAD software that needs 3 buttons and a scroll wheel to navigate.

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      I use a MacBook Pro at work, and supposedly it has a fantastic touchpad, yet I use a mouse when I can. I don’t even do CAD, I just don’t like trackpads. I use a Logitech Master MX 3 at work, which has two scroll wheels, back/forward buttons, and a thumb button, and it works well. At home, I have the Triathlon, which I actually prefer because I seem to constantly hit the side scroll wheel on accident.

      I love my personal ThinkPad with a TrackPoint though. It’s great for pretty much everything except CAD. There are three buttons, so it can scroll, it’s just awkward to switch between scrolling and rotating. When I mess with modeling, it’s on my desktop with a proper mouse anyway.

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      The Apple trackpad has remained in my opinion the best one ever developed and continues to improve generation to generation. They lost the script on keyboards for a hot minute there, and their mice have always been horrible to the point of deliberate non-functionality, but those trackpads are amazing. Their external trackpad has also come a long way in the past few years.

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    The mouse was never the best tool for a lot of computing jobs, it was just what caught on.

    I still primarily use my computers as a desktop, and I don’t like it when software requires me to reach over to my pointing device. When it does, the majority of the time I reach for a trackball which is far more comfortable.

    After dabbling with tiling windows managers in Linux some years ago, I came to realize that pointing devices are often the slow way to do things.

    The main thing I want a pointing device for these days is for scrolling through documents and web pages, and the vast majority of mice are just bad at that. Precision scrolling is only available on a handful of mice, and its niche enough that consistent software implementation is just not a thing.

    I’ll still keep a mouse on hand for playing the occasional video game that works better with one, but that’s not really how I like to play games usually.

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    I’m too sensitive for a trackpad. I hate touchscreens.

    Look, early Android phones had a tiny trackballs, some buttons and even physical keyboard.

    Who wants a stylus?

    👀

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      I miss the physical keyboard of my first phone. It was so cool! I filled flipped out open and turned out horizontal to thumb type.

      It was really hard moving to a virtual keyboard. Swype helps but it also make a ton of mistakes too.

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        My go to smartphone keyboard is MessagEase. A few larger buttons instead of many small. You can get quite fast on it, and larger buttons means fewer mistakes.

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    Sir, this is Lemmy.

    “We’ve forgotten how to use computers - The hex keypad is sorely missed”

    Remember (if you can) the classic drag-and-drop: You’d mouse over to a file or a folder, click to slide the icon to the trash, then release to drop it in.

    Did anyone everr do that though ?