The co-founder of failed cryptocurrency exchange FTX pleaded not guilty to a seven count indictment charging him with wire fraud, securities fraud and money laundering.
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there is no proof any nonhuman animal has a “desire to live” because there isn’t proof they understand personal mortality.
as for whether they have the capacity to suffer, which is all that sentience really seems to require, you can’t prove that they don’t have the capacity to suffer because you can’t prove a negative. the best you can say is that you don’t think there is enough evidence to support a claim that they ARE sentient.
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none of this is proof they understand personal mortality, which is the crux if this disagreement.
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you’re observing behavior and assuming cognition. you need to prove the cognition, and behavior is evidence but not proof.
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accusing your interlocutors of sexual deviancy is a classic ad hominem.
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mourning death of others is not proof that an animal know it, itself, might die.
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this distinction is the crux of the matter. your inability to address it meaningfully and nonsequitur of an accusation belie either a lack of understanding or a malicious intent to engage in bad faith. i can see no other explanation.
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maybe sentience or wanting to live aren’t metrics we should use as the basis of our morality.
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i didn’t say it’s unprovable. you’re putting words in my mouth.
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you’re saying i said you can’t prove something i didn’t say you couldn’t prove though. you literally invented a position.
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why should those be the metrics on which you base morality?
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sometimes pain is necessary or even good. and the only creature i know of which understands personal mortality, and so can have a desire to live, is humans, and i think homicide is bad, but i don’t think that is related to having a desire to live.
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calling me stupid doesn’t undermine my position or bolster yours.
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more ad hominem.
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