• sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    8
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    10 months ago

    No the fuck it does not. They are both stimulants, that’s effectively where the similarities end. A prescribed dose of adderal will not even come remotely close to the effects of recreational meth use.

      • sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        10 months ago

        A high recreational dose would provide effects closer to a usual dose of meth. Not the same, but closer. The reason I dislike the comparison is because most people won’t understand that and will simply think adderal and meth are effectively the same as they are normally used.

        Use of adderal as prescribed is not even remotely close to as dangerous as recreational meth use. I’m trying to prevent people from thinking that’s the case.

        The similarities between the two drugs simply come from the fact they are both stimulants. The comparison can be made between any two stimulants. The reason adderal and meth are used is because of the stigma adderal has. The comparison perpetuates that stigma despite having very little actual relevance.

        • null@slrpnk.net
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          10 months ago

          But then this is what doesn’t really fly:

          No the fuck it does not. They are both stimulants, that’s effectively where the similarities end.

          They are actually very similar when used recreationally, which is the context of the post.

          • sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            10 months ago

            They are actually very similar when used recreationally, which is the context of the post.

            I didn’t interpret it as being exclusively about recreational use. Now that I’m re-reading it, I wouldn’t word my response the way I did.

            I still think a response would be warranted to provide more clarification, but you are right to take issue with the way I did it. I used overly harsh wording because of my unwarranted emotional reaction to the claim. Because of that reaction, I also failed to account for the recreational use of adderal.

    • LittleBorat2@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      10 months ago

      20mg of Adderall and 20 mg worth of europaste will have similar effects.

      The latter is taken recreationally.

      • sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        10 months ago

        There is a reason meth is far more popular for recreational use than adderal is. Its true that the effects of the drugs would be much more similar at equivalent doses, but I don’t think this is a useful comparison. You could make the same comparison between effectively any two stimulants. This does not mean they are all similar in any meaningful way. All it means is that they all provide mental stimulation, which is kind of the point. The only thing accomplished by making this comparison is furthering the stigma that people who are prescribed stimulants are actually just addicts.

        While meth can provide an effect similar to a normal dose of adderal, no meth user actually takes that small of a dose. No one who casually reads that the effects are similar is going to understand that. They are going to assume adderal users are constantly high out of their minds on legal meth.