I’ve been seeing a few posts about this, and judging by comments I’ve seen on posts related to this, there’s been bad sentiment building up with LMG for some time now that has culminated in this recent dispute. Anyone have a brief catch-up of events?

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    Gamers nexus released a video criticising Linus tech tips for their quality of videos. Highly recommend you watch it if youre familiar with LTT or are into tech in general

    Tldr

    It’s just a bunch of controversy surrounding wrong data, incorrect facts in videos, poor quality assurance, giving products a bad review because they didn’t follow instructions etc. They also auctioned off a one of a kind prototype sent in by a small company, who actually wants it back but they can’t for obvious reasons.

    Linus responded saying he’s not going to talk about it in the WAN show (his podcast), and that his statement is enough. Said statement was apparently a bunch of nonsense. (I didn’t read it thoroughly myself but that’s the general consensus from others discussing)

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      I wouldn’t necessarily say that Linus’ response full of nonsense. It doesn’t contain what we would normally expect out of a response, but it does give us nuggets of insight into his mindset and philosophy toward the issue.

      My takeaway is that he’s not a bad person, but he’s well over his head in terms of managing his company. I think he knows that too, which is why he wants someone else to take the CEO position

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        Yeah I did wonder isn’t that what Linus wanted to avoid with a new CEO?

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      Nice one, thanks! I tried watching the start of the GN video about this, but it felt like being dropped in the middle of the situation and it assumes you have some prerequisite knowledge. I’m only loosely familiar with LTT.

      I’ll go give the video another chance now.

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        He recently introduced LTT labs, a lab that tests hardware and see if they perform to their advertised specifications. He tests a whole bunch of stuff like headphone audio, monitor visual quality, colour accuracy etc

        The controversy is mainly that the data produced from the lab has a lot of errors that should have been caught before uploading

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          Yeah, the gist I seem to be getting from GN’s video is that there is a lack of due diligence and journalistic integrity at LMG w.r.t. testing products, primarily because they’re unnecessarily rushing content out.

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    Linus tend to shoot his mouth. Luckily, he has Luke and Yvonne to kick him down a peg. I believe that Luke made Linus back down during the Trust Me Bro controversy and Luke will do the same here. Knowing Linus, he will probably even make a new video on this matter that will rake in 2 million views and profit from it.

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      Came to say the exact same thing. Both benefit form it because here we are talking about it, so there’s no down side for either of them. And you’re right he’ll make a video, get 2 million views and bank.

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    If you’re interested at all, just watch the GN video. It’s pretty long, but worth it.

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    There was a vid of a lmg employee shitting on other reviewer, gn made a video calling them out.

    Linus being linus, took it personal, denied everything, and proceeded to call gn unprofessional.

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      I think ‘shitting on’ is a bit of an exaggeration, it was a passing comment from a technical guy during a tour that didn’t mention GN and was in response to a question about why they’re building this setup and how it will be different.

      I think they were likely thinking of GN, but I didn’t read it as quite so ‘aggressive’.

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        If you watch the first 15-20 seconds of GN’s first video on this, the clip of the guy in the tour literally calls out GamersNexus and Hardware Unboxed

        Edit: “The difference between us and, similarly, GamersNexus and HardwareUnboxed, is we test new components, new tests, everytime”

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      It is simply unfair to call GN’s video drama. It’s not. They raise valid concerns, cite their sources for all the points they’re making, and those concerns are only validated further by the response from Linus and LMG.

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          “Standard journalistic procedures” my arse. Cite ‘em from someone that isn’t fuckin’ Linus Sebastian. I strongly recommend watching the first video from GN, reading Linus’ response directly on their forums, and then watching GN’s follow-up video. If this was “just a cash grab”, why wasn’t it monetised? Why was there no sponsor segment? More importantly, how would GN reaching out have been relevant here? And why did Linus’ official response address precisely none of the concerns raised, while also misrepresenting the situation with Billet again?

          Your post is nothing but a regurgitation of Linus’ whining that his corporation isn’t getting special treatment. You barely even bothered to digest it first. And, as others have said, LMG didn’t reach out to GN before trashing their testing methodology on their own, much larger channel. They don’t reach out to the manufacturers of the things they try in their AliExpress/Wish.com/Walmart videos. Back channels were not the appropriate place for these criticisms, so GN made an unmonetised video to highlight the problem for viewers who blindly trust Linus and LMG’s content, when it’s frequently inaccurate and sometimes extremely inaccurate.

          If you want to criticise Gamer’s Nexus or their team, address the substance of the points in their video. If it was “just a cash grab” as you want to make it out to be, then there would not be anything to address. But all their points are sourced and cited, and verifiable for anyone who wants to bother expending the effort.

          As it stands, I have noticed all the points Steve makes in that video for myself to varying degrees. This is not the first instance of this behaviour from Linus and LMG, and the response from them has indeed been disappointing.

          Edit: I also want to point out I’ve been watching LMG content far longer than I have GN content, I have spent hundreds of dollars on LMG merch from lttstore.com and have been very happy with all those purchases. I am a fan of LMG, and I think quite highly of Linus himself, but I am capable of looking at this objectively, and I am personally disappointed in Linus and his responses so far. I think he’s better than his actions, in this instance, and I really wish he’d take the criticism on board.

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          Addressed in GN’s news video today, 1st segment