• agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    11 months ago

    Call it the Game, call it the science Meta, call it politics in the sciences, whatever you like. It’s an extension of the same fundamentalist principles. Whatever it is, isn’t science itself.

    • Tavarin@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      11 months ago

      Whatever it is, isn’t science itself

      But it is. More science than you’ve ever done it seems since you think one data point with no controls is somehow scientific.

      • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        11 months ago

        That’s asinine. The bureaucracy and politics surrounding the practice of science is explicitly not science itself. It is crucial to a career in in modern science sure, but it is not itself science.

        • Tavarin@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          11 months ago

          Peer-review is an incredibly important part of science, one of the most important in fact. So go ahead with your non-peer reviewed, no control “science”, and leave the real science to us scientists.

          • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            11 months ago

            Scientific consensus is determined by peer-review. Peer -reviewed consensus can, and has been down to be false.

            Absolute certainty still isn’t part of science. If it’s 100% certain and not falsifiable, it’s not science by definition. Just like an atom with 7 protons isn’t carbon, by definition. Nitrogen is an important and valid element, but it isn’t carbon.

                • Tavarin@lemmy.ca
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  11 months ago

                  Whatever definition you want.

                  Except your control-less astrology report test, because that was certainly not science.

                  • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    11 months ago

                    Never said it was, only said that the existence of non-vague horoscope was a counter-example against your sweepingly certain statement that all horoscopes are vague.

                    Don’t think I haven’t noticed that every time I raise a valid point, you ignore it and try to pivot to a different one.