I’ve read that there were updated documentstgat differ fundamentally from that which is bein presented by the public (Hamas wants Israel/Jews destroyed wholesale.
How does Hamas feel about Israel and how do they feel about Jewish folks in general?
Is there anything to work with or from here? It does not help they have a far-right political orientation in terms of governance currently, thats clearly an obstacle a priori for negotiation and reasonable discourse
Tl;Dr of history of israel-palestine conflict:
Britain colonizes Palestine and makes it Israel
Israel recognizes this as kinda bullshit and willingly offers basically half the land to existing Palestinians and also offers full citizenship to any Palestinian who wishes to remain in what is now Israel.
Palestine refuses the deal, declares war on Israel
Israel kicks their ass, again offers a deal with less land
Palestine again says no, basically a cold war begins
Other Arab countries refuse to allow Palestinians to move there, also declare war on Israel and get their asses kicked
Terrorists begin attacking Israel from Palestine, especially from the West Bank
Those terrorists are elected to run Palestine in a free and fair election
Israel begins committing human rights violations against Palestinians
We’ve now been at this last stage for at least two decades, possibly longer but I can’t be bothered to fact check myself on the exact dates right now. And yes, this is absolutely as short as the TL;DR on this situation can get, I’m 100000% sure both sides will get upset about details I left out even in this longer story.
How Hamas feels about Zionism/Israel:
- The Zionist project is a racist, aggressive, colonial and expansionist project based on seizing the properties of others; it is hostile to the Palestinian people and to their aspiration for freedom, liberation, return and self-determination. The Israeli entity is the plaything of the Zionist project and its base of aggression.
How Hamas feels about Jewish people:
- Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.
There’s a bit more, it isn’t too long, you can find it here: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-2017-document-full
Who is more believable than actual terrorists?
We’ve seen in their recent attacks that they do very much differentiate between Zionists and normal people before they kill them. Oh, wait…
I’m just quoting from their charter…
I’m just saying it’s obviously not how they feel about it, but rather what they like gullible people to believe.
To put your quote into context.
This video does a good job of covering the basics of the current situation.
charter or policy documents
Get real. They aren’t american lawyers.
I mean on the Israeli side but I feel like that applies equally to Hamas, if that makes sense. What’s that corrollary expression about
opposites attract
(similars repel
)…Hamas Official Ayman Shanaa: The Zionists Are Carrying Out A ‘Blatant Attack On Civilians’ – They Must Be Stopped; On October 7 We Exercised Our ‘Legitimate Right’ To Liberate Our Land And We Are Willing To Pay The Price
I’m definitely skeptical of anything “moderate” that they claim to now operate on. Their actions, especially on October 7th illustrated what their actual ideology is. They even still have foreign workers who are entirely uninvolved hostage.