cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/8012296

I saw today new “merch” section below comments. I’m a premium users for a reason, I want 0 ads.

I just canceled my subscription and moved to yattee / invidious for good.

  • echo64@lemmy.worldEnglish
    122·
    1 year ago

    let’s say you go to a movie theatre, they sell food in the concessions on the way in. is that an ad? or are they just selling shit and also you’re gonna go watch a movie. maybe you want popcorn. maybe you want a mug.

    if they were to play an ad roll for all the merch before the video, sure, that’s an ad. but that’s not happening, op just went to a users youtube page and saw that there is a section for the users merch.

    • gmtom@lemmy.worldEnglish
      31·
      1 year ago

      If they have signs up advertising the food in the theatre, then yes, of course that’s an ad.

      • echo64@lemmy.worldEnglish
        22·
        1 year ago

        I’ll restate what I said because you didn’t quite go for it I didn’t say they put up advertising the food, I said they sell food.

        let’s say you go to a movie theatre, they sell food in the concessions on the way in. is that an ad? or are they just selling shit and also you’re gonna go watch a movie. maybe you want popcorn. maybe you want a mug.

        • gmtom@lemmy.worldEnglish
          21·
          1 year ago

          If they are selling it, but not advertising it, then ni it’s not an ad.

          But if they are advertising the food in cinema, like how youtube is advertising this merch, then that is an ad.

          It’s not complicated.

          • echo64@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            So the sign above the food telling you that there is popcorn here is an ad for you? If you see anything that indicates you can buy something that’s an ad for you? Wild. That’s not the case for the rest of us but okay.

            • gmtom@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              1 year ago

              No, if I see and advert advertising something then it’s an ad. If OP had gone to the guys merch store the listing would not be ads, but they are being advertised below the video.

              It’s about intent, a sign at the food stall isn’t an ad because you are already there intending to buy something, but if they advertised the popcorn in the theatre itself then its an ad since you aren’t at the theatre with intent to buy food.

              So when OP clicked the video he wanst intending to buy from the merch store so it’s an advert because its trying to convince him to go to the merch store and spend money.

              • echo64@lemmy.worldEnglish
                11·
                1 year ago

                When you go to the cinema, you are intending to watch a movie. Before you go into the cinema you see them selling popcorn, you want popcorn, you buy the popcorn. You go into the cinema, then an actual ad plays on the cinema screen before the movie.

                This is the distinction. What you think of as an ad, no one else does. That’s all. You think something is an ad. The rest of us totally disagree. You think anyone listing things for sale outside of a dedicated and importantly separate space is an ad. The rest of us totally disagree.

                I understand you now, but your idea of an ad is absolutely not the same as everyone else’s.

                • gmtom@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  11·
                  1 year ago

                  I’m glad the entire rest of the world convened on this issue and sent you as their representative.