• SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    “Hundreds of millions of Chinese Communists”? Millions at the very best. The vast majority of them are apolitical beyond somewhat basic approaches of “the government does good/bad thing for me, so government good/bad” like most people everywhere. And I’m not going to accept that the Chinese who actually simp for the government are actually Communists if they simp for a government that allows billionaires to accrue even more wealth through exploiting people, persecute minorities and tentatively dips its toes into imperialism. None of that shit is in the Communist Manifesto. If you disagree with this take, you’re unironically agreeing with tankies.

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      1 year ago

      Communism isn’t a problem, just like actual christlike Christians aren’t a problem.

      The problem is the susceptibility to abusive power. Capitalism is bad at that, but communism is terrible at it.

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        communism isnt susceptibil to abusive power. the marxist leninist transition state is.

        guess what, when a small group of ppl has full power over a state, ppl and economy “to transform it into a monyeless, stateless and classless society”, they will make sure to create a system that favours themsleves instead and that their state never withers away.

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          By your own assertion, people can create groups that are self-serving.

          Go ahead and tell me your communistic ideal, and I can tell you how someone could hack it.

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          I’m comparing capitalism to communism. If your issue is with that, I can’t help you.

          If your issue is with me using Christianity as an example of a system that is broken in a similar way to communism, perhaps I can elaborate if you’re interested.

          By ‘capitalism,’ though, I simply mean ‘capitalism.’ Sorry to disappoint you, bud, but the liberals aren’t the problem.

          Now, I don’t have a fundamental problem with capitalism, it’s just weak in that it trends towards inducing and rewarding short-term thought, but it fundamentally depends on long-term thought.

          Like anything, it can be a useful tool, but it’s definitely the principle of a “whole-ass ideology”.