Honestly I don’t know what’s going on in the USA. You’re so proud of your “democracy and freedom” yet one of your 2 political parties is able to effectively dismantle the entire thing in less than a decade. You’re now one election away from being a christofascist state.
…and yet you’re all just going to work tomorrow. You’re all doing pretty much nothing except “make sure you vote in 2024.” So I guess every 4 years you’re going to be one election away from a literal Nazi takeover?
I don’t know. Riot or something. I have no idea how you’re all coping so hard.
Revolt and overthrow your shitty government.
If we just overthrow our existing government, why would something better magically show up in its place?
Because by that time you’ll have grown the fuck up and taken ownership of your country and your actions enough to implement one.
We can look at history and see that it often doesn’t go this way when you tear down your government. It’s naive to just act like this is a straightforward and obvious way to go
It doesn’t have to be. You can make the choice to be better whenever you want. But we both know you won’t.
You are hopelessly naive.
You are partly responsible for why things are so terrible if that’s the conclusion you choose to draw.
The general public has enough of a mental split if the right direction of the country that short of splitting it somehow a sucessful revolt will lead to more fighting. Also country is super big. I’m content fighting my little battles withing my family/friends and using our voting system as much as I’d prefer significant changes.
It doesn’t have to be what?
It won’t be like in the movies. Brutal fighting house to house.
And then there’s the whole did you see what we did to Iraq in a month?
Thanks to Bush II army can operate in the US during “times of crisis”.
So vote.
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Bruh really thinks not causing complete chaos and instability is being selfish.
It sounds good until you actually start to think it through. Get rid of the “bad guys”? Fuck yeah! Then who decides who replaces them? What do we do to keep more of the same bad guys from stepping in to fill the power vacuum?
Wow, a pile of insults hiding a weak counterargument, color me surprised.
You know a population organized enough to overthrow the U.S. government will simply overthrow evil corporations too, right? You did consider that, did you?
After all, if you think you’re so smart then the American people certainly are smart enough to do so.
You heard it here ladies, gents, and others. A pile of insults is defined as more than two, and a three paragraph counterargument with multiple points is considered weak and undermined by one “haha, bet you didn’t think of that!” sentence. Sorry bruv. Gotta hard disagree with your stance. I agree things are f***** i ti distopia, but a single organized revolution is both insufficient and monumentally difficult to achieve.
And your response is to quibble about what “a pile of insults” means so you don’t have to address what I or anyone else is asking you at all.
We’re gonna try this again. Did you consider the fact that an armed, organized second American revolution can topple evil corporations as well as it could the U.S. government, if one existed? Yes or no
I have shared my thoughts here already, but ok. I’ll play along. I did consider it and it wouldn’t work due to a major split in the populace’s opinion, foreign powers that would get heavily involved, the sheer size of the country, and the inability for the revolutionary force to choose the correct moment to stop violent action.
Okay, that’s a good start. Now, do you realize the continental government faced similar problems and yet still managed to forge a new nation into being, and that it can be done again? Yes or no
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LOL. A counter argument so “weak”, you weren’t able to actually address any of it!
I wonder how many of these obvious shill accounts are on Lemmy.
https://youtu.be/3Qg-JA5TZsA?si=yCjEcYJZ9PgBazn6
https://youtu.be/U9akT4JplzU?si=HRNhRUAO2bO30rqJ
Perhaps, before suggesting people engage in violence or protest, you should do some research as to why they don’t, why it hasn’t occurred to them; what is the resistance?
It’s not an easy rabbit hole to follow, and I had to do the dive, myself. Heck, I was so certain the world by now would have a constitution wiki in which every national charter was translated. It would feature a workshop area where legal scholars could hone clauses like including ranked choice voting into US federal elections. Because so many improvements are no-brainers.
Eventually I realized such a beast didn’t exist, and legal scholars aren’t into that. It raises the question: why?
So, for now I’m going to say, just like yesterday, you should get on your knees and pray we don’t get fooled again.
The way you put it… are these two similar to you?
Violence is something where you absolutely need to think twice. In all cases.
Protest is something very, very neccessary in your current situation.
You’re not wrong there, but if you are at the “wrong” protest or the wrong skin color, you can easily find yourself in jail, the hospital, or dead from protesting peacefully.
Sad. But then it creates more protests against that (hopefully).
Be glad, because you have the chance to become a martyr, and you don’t even need to die along the way.
Yea of course, we the citizenry can just easily overthrow the most powerful nation on the planet with our shotguns, semi-autos, and hunting rifles.
Then once we win the rebels are sure to establish a perfect utopia, that’s what every other rebellion in history has done for sure