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[Announcement] Lemmy.ml has defederated from ani.social (and what this means for us) - AniSocial
ani.socialPlease do not say anything hateful to the Lemmy.ml [http://Lemmy.ml] admins or
the developers. Before commenting on this thread, please read the post
completely. — We (ani.social) have been defederated from Lemmy.ml
[http://Lemmy.ml] a few hours ago presumably for the reason of being “full of
CSAM” which I disagree. ## What happened? The Lemmy developers recently launched
the new redesigned join-lemmy.org [https://join-lemmy.org] webpage which
provides information about Lemmy and a list of servers that people can join. The
redesign looks great! It details a lot of new and useful stuff such as a
categorized server list and mobile apps. However, I noticed that our instance
(ani.social) was not in the list despite previously being there before the
redesign. After looking through the joinlemmy-site code
[https://github.com/LemmyNet/joinlemmy-site], I discovered that ani.social was
added to the “excluded” list in a commit a few weeks ago
[https://github.com/LemmyNet/joinlemmy-site/commit/d17c4d7d2fbeafb6e39000332d0ac21499de5b47].
I thought that this was a mistake so I made a pull request
[https://github.com/LemmyNet/joinlemmy-site/pull/266] to remove us from the
excluded list (and also to add our instance’s category and language).
Unfortunately, the pull request was closed with a comment that reads “No, that
is full of CSAM”. The thread was locked so I couldn’t reply. I tried to reach
out to the developers via Matrix, politely explaining that ani.social has a
content policy rule against CSAM [https://ani.social/legal] which reads: > 7. Do
not submit content depicting a child (both real and virtual) engaged or involved
in explicit sexual activities. A child is defined as a person who is under 18
years old; or a person, regardless of age, who is presented, depicted or
portrayed as under 18 years old. Unfortunately, my invitation was rejected and I
did not hear back from them. Shortly after, I discovered that Lemmy.ml had
defederated from ani.social [https://lemmy.ml/instances]. The last post
ani.social received from Lemmy.ml [https://ani.social/post/861241] was just
after the pull request was closed. ## What does this mean? This means that no
user from ani.social can interact with communities from Lemmy.ml
[http://Lemmy.ml] and vice versa. This affects those who subscribe to
communities from that instance. This also affects the anime community on Lemmy
as a whole because the biggest anime discussion community resides on Lemmy.ml
[http://Lemmy.ml] ([email protected] [/c/[email protected]]) in which their episode
discussion bot, @[email protected], is hosted here. It’s very concerning that
as an anime-themed instance, we’re now completely disconnected from this
community and other related communities. This also affects ani.social in the
long run as our exclusion from the join-lemmy.org [http://join-lemmy.org]
webpage will reduce our visibility. The exclusion from join-lemmy.org
[http://join-lemmy.org] and defederation from Lemmy.ml [http://Lemmy.ml] may
also prompt other instance admins to defederate from us. Generally, ani.social
will be seen in a very bad light. As the admin of ani.social, I genuinely feel
heartbroken after what had happened. Not only do I feel like I’m doing a poor
job of building ani.social but I also feel like I’ve disrespected the work of
the Lemmy developers. I really apologize to those who are affected by this. I
hope that this is just a misunderstanding and I will do my best to resolve this
problem.
It was added to the excluded instances because it allegedly contains CSAM
Discussion on MeanwhileOnGrad:
https://sh.itjust.works/post/8411770
More discussion across lemmy:
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