So basically the Swedish social democrats want to remove free speech from all EU citizens to “protect the children”

Read more here (the link leads to mullvad.net)

  • Marzepansion@programming.dev
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    1 year ago

    I don’t agree with what this proposal is aiming to do (and goes against prior EU related privacy rulings), but unfettered free speech isn’t as “free” as the average American thinks it is, besides that the EU already doesn’t have free speech. Many regions ban Nazi related speech for obvious historical reasons.

    I’d reconsider using America’s “free speech” as a model as they barely practice what they preach. Sure they have free speech, but they lack privacy protection mechanisms that then allow their police to skirt the rules and obtain evidence using tools that completely breach the veil of privacy, something many EU countries (including my own) have voted can never be used. The scope of intel gathering their intelligence community is capable of already is at a level where privacy no longer exist and all you’re left with is the illusion of it.

    What I’m saying is, sure this proposal is bad, but what we need isn’t free speech, but protected privacy. Something the EU is having some decent success with already (compare to the US where this is conveniently forgotten as technology improves, see the earlier police argument to see what that leads to). Speech isn’t going to be the only problem, as cameras achieve the ability to do facial recognition and track you everywhere (something I know EU is/has banned, see the “AI act”), and more technology allows for other types of tracking

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      The EU is on the right track until… Now…

      If this gets voted yes, it will break everything which has been put into place on privacy.

      So I’m not even sure where european “privacy” is.

      I’d just hope other countries and votes will put no to this law. Otherwise rip my encrypted apps.

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    Ah yes the good old chat surveillance, or Chat-Kontrolle, like it’s called here in Germany. This is a topic that bubbles up time and time again and we can’t seem to get rid of it.

    I’m really not sure if those politicians are really this naive that it could work and not be abused, but I don’t really know whose money is behind this either.

    I’m so tired of this topic, it’s like a cancer that keeps coming back with the same arguments, that have been disproven time and time again.

    It’s like a depression, when you least expect it, there it is and coming to pull you down and destroy everything you build for yourself.

    It’s like the rot in the walls of a building that you can just not get dry.

    Like all of these things, there is only one option: fight against it. It’s even trickier, because it’s on EU level, but not impossible.

    We have prevented it in the past and we will prevent it again!

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    Yeah the EU has been preparing shit like this for a while now. People both from outside and inside europe see it as an amazing coalition and are always praising it. I never trusted it and now im starting to feel scared by it. Ill get tf out of here soon tho, as Im moving to Switzerland.

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      Yeah, it sounds like a good move. Switzerland is a good place for privacy. I’m planning on moving to Liberland in a few years.