This is a victory in a long fight, not just against blanket police surveillance, but also against a culture in which private, for-profit companies build special tools to allow law enforcement to more easily access companies’ users and their data—all of which ultimately undermine their customers’ trust.

Remember, it’s very easy to announce something, keep an eye on them to make sure they follow through

    • thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.worldEnglish
      52·
      10 months ago

      **this is a victory in that your neighbors camera won’t get you arrested for what you do at your own front door, assuming it’s not bullshit. there’s almost no overlap between ring customers and people that want to self host their cameras. ring will never be for that, there are other products for that. this is just good because of all the cameras we don’t control.

      ring sells convenience. they sell ease of use. people that buy ring do so because it’s one of the first camera systems that’s as easy to set up as an Amazon alexa, which they also have, because they don’t think about digital privacy.

      just because this isn’t the perfect fantasy outcome that we had wet dreams about doesn’t mean this isn’t good.

      • umbrella@lemmy.mlEnglish
        11·
        10 months ago

        *thats if you believe their words.

        there is no way to verify they are saying the truth, so might as well have said nothing.

  • glimse@lemmy.worldEnglish
    191·
    10 months ago

    Victory! Ring Announces They Won’t Tell You They Are Facilitating Police Requests Anymore

  • Aniki 🌱🌿@lemm.eeEnglish
    91·
    10 months ago

    Yeah you’re comment is spot on. This will just become an apparatus for parallel construction instead of primary evidence

    • thesporkeffect@lemmy.worldEnglish
      21·
      10 months ago

      The battle for consumer privacy is trench warfare. You have to fight for every inch. This is a positive even though it’s not a perfect outcome

      • Aniki 🌱🌿@lemm.eeEnglish
        5·
        10 months ago

        But this isn’t a law. Companies say all kinds of baseless shit and outright lies. Quite frankly, I don’t believe them.

      • umbrella@lemmy.mlEnglish
        2·
        10 months ago

        this is just a company saying unverifiable things so they can sell you shit.

        we won nothing.