Then the party will see that they got “enough” centrists to vote for them to justify dumping anything progressive from the platform. And then lose both the house and senate in '26.
Yes, I’ll vote for OG Neoliberal to attempt to stop Jerry Lewis Hitler for a third time, just as they chose to turn the water pumps on the Titanic knowing the ship was doomed either way to buy a few extra minutes.
It’s funny how many true believers in our failed system then angrily declare that I must also love crime bill passing, social safetynet eviscerating, supply side economics propagating Biden, or I’m still somehow voting for Trump.
From the rest of the world,
Could everyone like you make it obvious you’ll turn out.
I’ll turn out.
I turned out for Clinton, never seen the ballots so empty for a Presidential election, after making calls and primarying for Sanders.
I will turn out, strictly as harm reduction, but many will not with nothing to vote for, only against and that is the electorate’s fault, not the disenfranchised. They have good reason to be.
Our only 2 parties and the candidates the deluded voters elevate are just an argument about the speed of our descent into oligarchal dystopia.
I haven’t looked at the methodologies for recent polls, but any surveys conducted via phone are inherently flawed.
How many people are going to answer a call from ‘unknown’ or ‘rando research center’? How many of these people are willing to take the time to provide answers to political questions to a stranger? Now, who do you know that fit this criteria and what kind of person are they?
Fivethirtyeight are pretty good at recognising flaws in polling and adjusting for them. You can go deep and look at their methodologies, as well as the margin of error they give to their results.
Sometimes they give a massive margin of error when things are uncertain, sometimes they’re more confident in the data they’ve got.
50% of Americans really want to see the world burn don’t they.
That total from fivethirtyeight excludes “don’t knows”. It’s a projected vote share from polling results.
It’s a general mistake to exclude them most of the time.
In 2016
Clinton got 29.0% Trump got 27.7%
29.9% of the electorate didn’t vote for either of them.
First past the post is awful. The electoral college is awful.
We’ve invented a form of democracy where negative campaigning works better than positive. You get to pick the second worst option, that’s it
But genuinely we know that in 2024 picking the second worst option is really important.
First past the post is awful.
Yes this is the thing that has to change to save the US from collapse I think. Second after keeping orange man out of power.
I’m an outside observer though.